Comments on: Demi Moore’s hip, and handling the truth http://www.zigzaglens.com/demi-moores-hip-and-handling-the-truth/ Photography and other creative musings from Los Angeles Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:03:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: W Korea Takes My Side, Fixes Demi Moore's | Fashion Photographer Anthony Citranohttp://www.zigzaglens.com/demi-moores-hip-and-handling-the-truth/comment-page-2/#comment-243 W Korea Takes My Side, Fixes Demi Moore's | Fashion Photographer Anthony Citrano Tue, 18 May 2010 03:56:41 +0000 http://www.zigzaglens.com/blog/?p=152#comment-243 [...] The volume of angry email I woke up to this morning has astonished me. People, think about this: I pointed out a blooper [read the earlier post here] & was threatened with legal action for doing so. Now the basis for that threat is totally blown [...] [...] The volume of angry email I woke up to this morning has astonished me. People, think about this: I pointed out a blooper [read the earlier post here] & was threatened with legal action for doing so. Now the basis for that threat is totally blown [...]

]]> By: Photography Site | The Cosmic Taphttp://www.zigzaglens.com/demi-moores-hip-and-handling-the-truth/comment-page-2/#comment-215 Photography Site | The Cosmic Tap Sat, 10 Apr 2010 20:58:44 +0000 http://www.zigzaglens.com/blog/?p=152#comment-215 [...] and work out the kinks – in the coming weeks, when I’m not too busy dealing with frivolous legal threats from celebrities and their blustery lawyers. blog comments powered by Disqus var disqus_url = [...] [...] and work out the kinks – in the coming weeks, when I’m not too busy dealing with frivolous legal threats from celebrities and their blustery lawyers. blog comments powered by Disqus var disqus_url = [...]

]]> By: Adam Millerhttp://www.zigzaglens.com/demi-moores-hip-and-handling-the-truth/comment-page-2/#comment-147 Adam Miller Fri, 08 Jan 2010 00:05:33 +0000 http://www.zigzaglens.com/blog/?p=152#comment-147 Congrats on developing such a keen eye! However, I'm pretty sure that the "major physical deformity in her left thumb" you describe is actually just part of her thumb obscured by the dress. With Modest Acumen, Adam Congrats on developing such a keen eye! However, I’m pretty sure that the “major physical deformity in her left thumb” you describe is actually just part of her thumb obscured by the dress.
With Modest Acumen, Adam

]]> By: Lauriehttp://www.zigzaglens.com/demi-moores-hip-and-handling-the-truth/comment-page-2/#comment-120 Laurie Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:20:15 +0000 http://www.zigzaglens.com/blog/?p=152#comment-120 I think the lawyers need an editor. I didn't get very far (first paragraph - "... confirmed that they made no alternations whatsoever to the shape, size or appearance of Ms. Moore's hips, legs or waist..."), but I think they meant "alterations" instead of "alternations." The latter just doesn't make any sense, unless they're trading hips.Also, regardless, it is incredible indeed to claim any photo published in any magazine these days endured zero editing. Good for you and very well-versed. I think the lawyers need an editor. I didn’t get very far (first paragraph – “… confirmed that they made no alternations whatsoever to the shape, size or appearance of Ms. Moore’s hips, legs or waist…”), but I think they meant “alterations” instead of “alternations.” The latter just doesn’t make any sense, unless they’re trading hips.

Also, regardless, it is incredible indeed to claim any photo published in any magazine these days endured zero editing. Good for you and very well-versed.

]]> By: Jimhttp://www.zigzaglens.com/demi-moores-hip-and-handling-the-truth/comment-page-2/#comment-119 Jim Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:41:50 +0000 http://www.zigzaglens.com/blog/?p=152#comment-119 Congratulations on standing up to these bullying tactics. You have proved your case without a shadow of doubt. Moore should be ashamed of herself ... and pigs might fly. Congratulations on standing up to these bullying tactics.
You have proved your case without a shadow of doubt.
Moore should be ashamed of herself … and pigs might fly.

]]> By: Karenhttp://www.zigzaglens.com/demi-moores-hip-and-handling-the-truth/comment-page-2/#comment-118 Karen Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:18:40 +0000 http://www.zigzaglens.com/blog/?p=152#comment-118 I hope you get your apology. It's certainly warranted. I hope you get your apology. It’s certainly warranted.

]]> By: MG Pollockhttp://www.zigzaglens.com/demi-moores-hip-and-handling-the-truth/comment-page-2/#comment-117 MG Pollock Wed, 30 Dec 2009 04:55:41 +0000 http://www.zigzaglens.com/blog/?p=152#comment-117 An excellent response to a preposterous set of charges by Ms. Moore and her legal team. It is laughable for her to claim that her photo was untouched in any way. Photos of her by the paparazzi and photos of her that grace advertisements and magazine covers look completely different; there is no surgical procedure, injection, or topical treatment that can erase every single wrinkle a 47 year old woman would have. She needs to just move on. An excellent response to a preposterous set of charges by Ms. Moore and her legal team. It is laughable for her to claim that her photo was untouched in any way. Photos of her by the paparazzi and photos of her that grace advertisements and magazine covers look completely different; there is no surgical procedure, injection, or topical treatment that can erase every single wrinkle a 47 year old woman would have. She needs to just move on.

]]> By: Michael Margolishttp://www.zigzaglens.com/demi-moores-hip-and-handling-the-truth/comment-page-2/#comment-116 Michael Margolis Wed, 30 Dec 2009 02:27:20 +0000 http://www.zigzaglens.com/blog/?p=152#comment-116 Kudos Anthony! How you are handling this situation, with such earnest candor, transparency, and good-naturedness will undoubtedly only boost your own brand reputation and image. Hope this doesn't consume too much of your time, and we can still break bread in L.A. week of Jan 19th. Pulling for you. Kudos Anthony! How you are handling this situation, with such earnest candor, transparency, and good-naturedness will undoubtedly only boost your own brand reputation and image. Hope this doesn’t consume too much of your time, and we can still break bread in L.A. week of Jan 19th. Pulling for you.

]]> By: Mary Andrewshttp://www.zigzaglens.com/demi-moores-hip-and-handling-the-truth/comment-page-2/#comment-111 Mary Andrews Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:20:34 +0000 http://www.zigzaglens.com/blog/?p=152#comment-111 I am an artist as well as an art student and photographer, mostly with black and white film and just diverging into digital media, but I've been using photoshop for more than 10 years, and although I love the program it's very easy (albeit sometimes a lot of work) to create a beautiful lie that will pass muster. Anyone who has any common sense and observes the things they consume know that it is common fact that Photoshop and other adome mediums are used visual medias we consume. The photographer here is in the right to state his observations, based on experience and facts and display it however he so wishes. He's done a good job of documenting these facts. I just saw another commenter on Boing Boing say that to have carried off this W cover it would have taken more than 50 edits. I've done projects where I've had hundreds of edits, so just based on my amateur perception alone I can add my voice (however unnecessary) to this discussion in saying that it is fact that somewhere along the line the original photos didn't make it onto the cover because most photographers have use photoshop, lightroom and any number of editing tools as their default. Even the best pictures are edited, either digitally or manually. The picture published on the cover of W magazine clearly shows disproportion by the hip, thigh, hands and upper body. It is a fact. It happened. Instead of trying to hide it, maybe all the wonders that have been attributed to photoshop should be celebrated. But of course it's not a one sided story and photoshop can also be used to create and continue lies. This cover is a lie and a negligent one at that.Demi Moore, whom I love, admire, and is beautiful does not walk around with a pound of flesh missing from her left hip and her fingers are not elongated contured and normal in that position nor is her left thumb broken, or disjointed as it looks like in the figure. I spend many hours mastering trickery with photoshop. It's an artist trade, a cheat sheet, and our slight of hand. People look and wonder and fall in love with such photographs without truly analyzing what went into making the final copy of a picture of the original shot. People, myself included, just need to think.I have no issue with Mr. Anthony Citrano's analysis at all. Thanks for being clear and true Anthony - and also, great shots from your own portfolio! I am an artist as well as an art student and photographer, mostly with black and white film and just diverging into digital media, but I’ve been using photoshop for more than 10 years, and although I love the program it’s very easy (albeit sometimes a lot of work) to create a beautiful lie that will pass muster. Anyone who has any common sense and observes the things they consume know that it is common fact that Photoshop and other adome mediums are used visual medias we consume. The photographer here is in the right to state his observations, based on experience and facts and display it however he so wishes. He’s done a good job of documenting these facts. I just saw another commenter on Boing Boing say that to have carried off this W cover it would have taken more than 50 edits. I’ve done projects where I’ve had hundreds of edits, so just based on my amateur perception alone I can add my voice (however unnecessary) to this discussion in saying that it is fact that somewhere along the line the original photos didn’t make it onto the cover because most photographers have use photoshop, lightroom and any number of editing tools as their default. Even the best pictures are edited, either digitally or manually. The picture published on the cover of W magazine clearly shows disproportion by the hip, thigh, hands and upper body. It is a fact. It happened. Instead of trying to hide it, maybe all the wonders that have been attributed to photoshop should be celebrated. But of course it’s not a one sided story and photoshop can also be used to create and continue lies. This cover is a lie and a negligent one at that.

Demi Moore, whom I love, admire, and is beautiful does not walk around with a pound of flesh missing from her left hip and her fingers are not elongated contured and normal in that position nor is her left thumb broken, or disjointed as it looks like in the figure. I spend many hours mastering trickery with photoshop. It’s an artist trade, a cheat sheet, and our slight of hand. People look and wonder and fall in love with such photographs without truly analyzing what went into making the final copy of a picture of the original shot. People, myself included, just need to think.

I have no issue with Mr. Anthony Citrano’s analysis at all. Thanks for being clear and true Anthony – and also, great shots from your own portfolio!

]]> By: Laurahttp://www.zigzaglens.com/demi-moores-hip-and-handling-the-truth/comment-page-2/#comment-109 Laura Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:52:06 +0000 http://www.zigzaglens.com/blog/?p=152#comment-109 Bravo! Very well done and beautifully written. I won't be holding my breath for an apology, but you are most assuredly due one. A very large, public apology...and perhaps $50,000 donated to the charity of *your* choice. Bravo! Very well done and beautifully written. I won’t be holding my breath for an apology, but you are most assuredly due one. A very large, public apology…and perhaps $50,000 donated to the charity of *your* choice.

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